healing quotes

From a great book “Ministering Healing” by Jack Moraine:

“You don’t need great faith for healing; you need just enough faith to be obedient and to pray”.

I like that one because it puts faith within reach. The amount of faith is quite small but it’s like a relay switch. A small current in one part of a circuit flips a switch that joins up a path way for a massive current to flow in another part. It is my conviction that if someone asks for prayer and I am willing to pray for them, then all the faith needed is present. God does the healing. It does not require great power or skill from us. We flick the switch. He provides the power.

Note this interesting dynamic in faith: If I concentrate on my faith and the amount of it required,  my faith actually goes down. If however, I realise how little faith is required to achieve some great enterprise,  then my faith actually increases. Its not the amount of faith that matters, it’s the greatness of God’s desire and power to accomplish something that makes the real difference. That’s probably one of the reasons Jesus said you only need faith the size of a mustard seed to command mountains to be uprooted and thrown into the heart of the sea (something even Yoda would struggle to do).

Of course all that has to be in tension with the fact that Jesus does actually say to his disciples that they could not heal a boy because of their lack of faith. He does that in the verse before talking about grains of mustard in fact (can’t help seeing the parallel between Yoda teaching Luke the force by lifting his space ship out for the swamp and Jesus healing to boy…) .  Now this is a puzzle because I would have thought that Jesus disciples would have had a lot of faith. He had sent them out and they have come back rejoicing because they were able to heal so many. What happened in this case? Was it because it did not happen straight away. I suppose their faith could have been propped up on  their experience rather than in God’s will and power. That would make sense as to root your faith in God rather than past results probably requires prayer which is what Jesus says they need to do.

Anyway here is another quote:

“if you can’t minister healing you can always minister love”

Heidi Backer and Bill Johnson say a similar thing.  And one final quote form the book:

“When you pray for people on a consistent basis there are a lot more people healed than when you don’t.”

John Wimber said “don’t tell me God doesn’t heal until you have prayed for 1000 people”, or something like that, implying that if you pray for more some will eventually start to get well.  One of the Bethel guys said a similar thing. Something like “Keep praying for people and eventually God will have to back you up.” Not that God is at all reticent but that logically there is no way you can pray for people in Jesus name and not see results. His name is just to precocious and powerful.

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I love your presence (part 3)

I have already blogged some of the main things that impacted me from a recent healing conference in Kent. Now I will put up some of my notes. I took pages and pages of them in my ineligible (woops, I meant illegible!) script. My hand kept cramping up with the effort but what they were saying was so good I didn’t want to loose any of it. On the left here I have scanned in the first page of my notes for posterity. Apparently hand writing is on the way out as everyone is inputing words via computers nowadays. Just read this article in the independent that explores that and other possibilities: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/everything-starts-with-the-pen-2109252.html

I must say it would have saved me hours if I had been able to input my notes into a computer at the time rather than have to type them up later. The plus side is I get to go through the notes in detail all over again which I am really enjoying.

At first it threw me that Joaquin Evans  was introduced as “Wakeem” but that is how it’s said apparently. He is the director of the Bethel healing rooms in the states. He says

“My full-time job is healing, everything to do with my job description has healing in it. But I can’t heal the sick! But God can. And he is good at his job. He needs less help than we think he needs. God is good at healing….”

  • God chose to partner with us. He wants to come where there is a surrendered heart. We worship him and then get out of the way. And amazing things happen.
  • We could call this conference “revival made easy!
  • He is good, so good things happen when he comes.
  • What if God wants to come in his measure and not ours?
  • God wants to be with you more than you want to be with you. He wants to move through you.
  • God’s “decent and in order” looks different than ours. Have you ever read about heaven in the Bible? It’s wild! (see Rev 19:4)
  • We have seen skin tumors literally wiped off. Rheumatoid arthritis healed, someone with a tumor in the eye receive their sight. People with metal plates able to move in ways they’ve not been able to before.
  • He is better at his job than we are at ours.
  • Why healing is so important:
  • the entire gospel message is captured in one healing. The gospel in pill form is captured in every healing.
  • In Luke 10 Jesus tells his disciples to go into the world, heal the sick, and tell people the kingdom of God has just come near them; that they have just had a tangible touch of the reality of God and an encounter of his love.
  • It’s way simpler than we make it out to be. Make it your goal to see the kingdom of God breakout and for people to know the love of God, not simply healing. If it’s just healing you have missed the point.
  • We can hit people over the head with information or give them an experience with the truth.
  • Someone might say “I don’t believe in Jesus“. We say “that’s okay I do!” When they get healed well be right there to answer their questions.
  • If your neighbor has a daughter with leukaemia does she want a hot meal or someone who knows God can heal the sick?
  • 1 Corinthians 12 talks about gifts of the spirit including healing and miracles but one Corinthians 13 says the greatest gift is love. Healing has to operate under the umbrella of love.
  • It’s not about our performance. How much I have prayed or how many people I have healed recently. It’s just about him and his presence. Our attitude should be “God you are so good you will do it anyway”.
  • Put your attention on God “wow, papa!”
  • It is not about our works it’s about us wanting to see his goodness and his kingdom and his love touch the world. Not simply in healing but in all kinds of ways.
  • Healing has already been paid for.
  • If you want to see an increase in miracles get used to declaring “he is good
  • In Matthew 10:1 Jesus gives his disciples authority. We don’t need to ask God for something he has already given us. We already have authority to heal.

Jesus, Peter and Paul

  • In Luke 7:19 John the Baptist begins to wonder if Jesus is the Messiah. In verse 21 Jesus sends his messengers back to tell him “what you have seen and heard: the blind receive site, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised,  and the good news is preached to the poor”.
  • Offence is one of the greatest manifestations of the anti-anointing. “And blessed is the one who is not offended by me.” (ESV) Luke 7:23    (the NIV has “fall away” but offence makes the sense clearer I think).
  • God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. (ESV) Acts 10:38. (me – God was with him = He carried the presence of God and the power of God)
  • God is in love with people.
  • Why is it important to go after healing? In Acts 2:22 Peter says that Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs.
  • In John 20:21 Jesus says “as the father has sent me, I am sending you”. Then he breaths on them and says “receive the holy spirit“. (me – he then seems to say that they can grant or withhold the forgiveness of sins).
  • In Romans 15:19 Paul says he proclaimed the gospel of Christ by the power of signs and miracles, through the power of the spirit..
  • There are only two rules. Have fun and don’t pray too hard.

I love your presence (part 1)

 

Joaquin Evans

 

Wow, just got back from another great conference. The main speaker was Joaquin Evans who is the director of the healing rooms at Bill Johnson’s “Bethel” church in the states. Josh, another great guy who was with him, spoke too as did Pete Carter who was hosting the conference. I have made tonnes of notes which I will endeavor to transcribe but for now I just want to make some general remarks.

Although it was a healing conference and I went with a desire to move forward in that particular area, the overwhelming thing I took away with me is a desire for more of the presence of God. The two main speakers lived lives in the tangible, knowable, experiential, powerful, presence of God.

When Paul talks about us being temples of the Holy Spirit and about fellowship with the Spirit, and when Jesus says that he would send ‘another’ to be with us and that indeed he would always be with us, they are not merely passing on information that would otherwise be unknowable; things, as it were to bear in mind. They were talking about a tangible, experience-able knowledge of a reality. Being a Christian is being with Jesus. That’s the deal. Now, of course, I agree that truth trumps experience, so when we don’t feel like God is with us we can know that he is, and act accordingly, but it’s a truth that can and should be experienced. In thick fog a pilot needs to use his artificial horizon but his plane also has windows so that most of the time he can look outside. Most of the time his reality doesn’t need to be mediated, it can be experienced.

Closely related to the presence of God is knowing the love of God. You can tell someone that God loves them and they can agree that, “yes, he does”, but that is not the fullness of what the bible means when it uses the word “know”. Again it is experiential. When Paul prays for the Ephesians:

Eph 3:16-19   that according to the riches of his glory [God] may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith–that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God. (ESV)

he is not trying to persuade them to agree to a fact. He longs for them to have a supernatural experiential encounter with truth. He even says that this love surpasses knowledge!

I love hearing people who know something of the experience of the Holy Spirit teach the bible. It’s such a shame when wonderful passages like this are watered down to head knowledge and holy living. Talk of living by the Spirit and fellowship with the spirit should not be reduced to mere moralism.

They talked about the anointing, and how as we spend time in God’s presence we get “smeared with Him”. That is something of what anointing means apparently. It’s a wonderful thought. When we come back from a pub, or restaurant, or staying at a hotel,  we smell of the place we have been. When we get clothes via eBay they smell different to our clothes – they carry the smell of their owners. It got me thinking. Do I smell of the presence of God? Dogs can smell fear but demons can smell God!

So often I experience tangible fear and anxiety. The fact that something might go wrong is not just head knowledge. It affects my heart and I experience fear. Fear can have a powerful effect on my emotions, and my thinking and my actions. How much more should the knowledge of God’s love flood my heart with joy and motivate me to extend the kingdom. In fact, the bible says that the knowledge and experiential power of this love “casts out fear” (1 John 4:18). I love that expression “cast out” (the Greek word is “Ballo”). It makes me think of a fight taking place in a wild west Saloon. In the movies there is always a shot from the outside as the fight rages inside, then crash! the bad guy is thrown through the window and out onto the dusty street outside. That is what “cast out” means. “To throw, not caring where it falls, to let go of”. It’s used in Rev 6:13 to describe how figs fall from a tree in a fierce wind. In John 13:5 it describes water being poured out of a basin and in Mark 12:41 where Jesus is “casting out” the money changers from the temple. I know what it is to walk around with a knot of anxiety. Now I want to enjoy the freedom that a knowledge of God’s love and presence brings.

Again, when our spirits cry “abba” Father it’s a wonderful experiential exclamation, not a stoic, factual declaration. Rom 8:15, Gal 4:6. On the way back from the conference I realized that I never called my dad “Father” or, in my remembrance at least, even “daddy”. I call him dad. I wondered if I could call God “dad”. It sounded odd but intimate. Thanks to having a good earthly dad using that term of address immediately brought with it massive positive emotional and relational content. I am still being cautious with this as it seems so amazing and too good to be true. Too irreverent, too informal, too close. It’s much easier to use the old fashioned, Victorian sounding “father” as it has enough religion about it to keep God at a polite distance. It recognizes the truth but doesn’t lead me into a full experience of it. Calling God “dad” on the other hand puts me in his arms, and in his heart. It brings security and acceptance and joy and peace.

I grew up in a church where at the end of each meeting the following was said:

2 Cor 13:14   The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. (ESV)

Now that’s a great thing to say but sadly for me it was just words. Now I want it to be a reality. For these things to “be with me”.

I came back from the conference singing a great song.

In the glory of your presence
I find rest, for my soul
In the depths of your love
I find peace, makes me whole

I love, I love, I love your presence
I love, I love, I love your presence
I love, I love, I love you Jesus
I love, I love, I love your presence

It’s so true. I do love his presence.